One way to look at it...
Kip generated some Great PR for himself in the Boston Globe article. How is this possible? Is he just a clever -- no, ingenious -- charismatic leader? Actually Kip uses a persuasive technique called NLP in his preaching, and specifically, in the Boston Globe article. Don't believe it? Read on.

The following is from a discussion on Kip's use of NLP techniques. The article is modified, but can be found on ICC DF.

In the Globe article, the reporter asks Kip:

REPORTER: "Kip, are you staging a comeback?"
KIP: "We're praying that God will lead us to a new ministry. You might say, 'What is that?' I don't know."

The reporter directly asks Kip if he is making a "comeback." A simple "Yes" or "No" question. Right? So why can't Kip simply offer a simple "Yes" or "No" answer?

On hearing the question, you might think, "Ha ha, yeah, Kip wants a coup," or "Kip wants his money back," etc.

Kip's response, however stops that thought process. With one sentence, he gets the reporter -- and the reader -- to think that the "comeback" = "new ministry." He then buries that sidetrack by having the reader ask himself: "What is that?"

By then you've forgotten all about your own thoughts. Very tricky. Further, Kip also quickly answers the question himself. "I don't know!" Making your amnesia complete. "I don't know" -- a great, mysterious phrase to use, so you'll think the force behind everything is God -- not KIP! -- whose intention no one, not even Kip, knows.

As Kip always has, he implies it is the unseen, unknown God inspiring the events and history of the ICC, not him, just a humble preacher from Indianapolis.

This is an NLP technique, called an "embedded command." You lead -- or "plant" as others might more cynically say -- a certain thought, emotion, or way of thinking into the mind of another person. It is so subtle, that the opinion becomes fact, beneath the person’s conscious awareness.

NLP is short for Neuro-Linguistic Programming, a technique that uses language patterns, repitions, phrasing, etc. to manipulate the way a person thinks about an issue, idea, etc. being discussed. It is used again and again by Kip in his quotes from the Boston Globe article.

Much of NLP codifies techniques that salesmen have been using for centuries. In the article, Kip uses some of these techniques to lead the conversation. This is done through implying certain assumptions. For example, in the ICC we often command people to come to church without seeming to do so, by not allowing them the room to say "No."

Typical example: "When you come to church on Sunday...." vs. "Would you like to come?"

The purpose of using embedded commands is to move your target’s mind in the direction you want it to go without seeming to be intruding or ordering in any way.

Another Globe example.

REPORTER: "Kip, are you staging a comeback?"
KIP: "We're praying that God will lead us to a new ministry... "

Here Kip is indirectly talking to ICC members. You can easily replace "we" with "you", making this an embedded command for ICC members, if not the reporter.

Notice how Kip answers the reporter's question in a way so that both now and later on, people will view the events of Kip's coming coup as not being generated by the man Kip, but by God himself. The article itself is helping lay the groundwork for the Kip-engineered coup that is to follow. Why else would Kip break his long-standing unwillingness to talk to reporters?

One anti-ICC minister and exit counselor Kyle Degge spoke at a L.A. ex-ICC support group and reported that Kip has secretly studied, mastered, and employed --and has secretly had his leaders also master and employ NLP techniques to "advance the ministry" -- without ever informing the rank 'n file members that he/his staff was actually doing so.

Indeed, Kip's First Principles, Kip's past speeches, Kip's past writings, etc. are chock full of NLP. Anyone who wants to do the work to identify and ferret them out, has their work cut out for them!

The idea that Kip "doesn't know" what he is doing is absurd.

Spread the word.

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More Background on NLP

NLP first emerged in the early '70's as the brainchild of Richard Bandler and John Grinder. Cult expert Steve Hassan makes reference to NLP in his book COMBATTING CULT MIND CONTROL, but does not believe the NLP organization itself to be a cult. While studying under Bandler and Grinder, Hassan became alarmed as he saw that that NLP techniques--- codified and made available by Grinder/Bandler---were being misused by various cult leaders to control the minds of their followers.

Tony Robbins' PERSONAL POWER infomercials and seminars are all based on NLP. After studying NLP, Robbins crafted his own mass market version of NLP. (NLP purists deride Robbins' version as a fast-food version of NLP.) Ross Jeffries applies NLP to the task of "getting laid".

Tens of thousands of companies have sent their sales staff through NLP training, resulting in millions of slick-talking, highly-successfull salesman hawking their wares around the country while using these phenomenally potent techniques---ICC Evangelists were among those trained in NLP.

Responsible NLP practitioners will say the following:

To employ these techniques without the informed consent of the people you use them on---as Kip & the ICC does---is monumentally unethical, and psychologically destructive.

The ICC has employed NLP in the following areas:

1) one-on-one persuasion (hypnosis)
2) group persuasion (4-on-1, etc.)
3) mass meetings (mass hypnosis)
4) self-hypnosis.

For example, NLP teaches laughter creates a "blank slate" and a relaxed state in the person's mind. That's why the ICC sermons all start with a stand-up comic-like schtick, so the audience's mind is "blanked", their mental defenses are put down, and their critical thinking is suspended.

Repetitive singing also creates the same effect.

NLP is the "dirty secret", and the the missing piece of the ICC puzzle, the one that none of the sites----REVEAL, TOLC, RIGHT-CYBER-UP, this forum---has ever dealt with in detail. It's a huge reason for the ICC's phenomenal success and growth.

Interesting side note: NLP is also used by Landmark/est, Scientology, and the motivational speaker guy on Mr. Personality.

http://forums.delphiforums.com/ICCdiscussion/messages?msg=6388.1 "Kip's uses of NLP in the B.Globe Article"

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AN NLP EXPERT'S RESPONSE

I ran your thoughts by an expert in NLP who trains others in using these techniques. This is what he had to say.

"The writer is correct in that NLP codifies everyday communication patterns. The purpose of codifying is so that communication can be broken down to the smallest component for analysis. There are many reasons why analysis might be desired.

The point is, NLP simply codifies what people do/say. I am immediately concerned that the writer does not understand NLP by way of the explanantion of a mind control trick or manipulation. NLP just codifies -or puts labels on - what people do naturally. This allows the analysis of conversation as has been done with Kip. Having said that, people who are aware of the techniques can purposefully structure communication to be persuasive. Much of that last sentence actually uses hypnotic language patterns. A naturally persuasive person would use the same techniques even if they were unaware of NLP. In fact, we all do unconsciously all the time.

I wonder what might be said of Jesus/ the Bible if we were to analyse his communication the same way? Eg. John1:1, Mk 4:11-12, Most of the parables, The entire book of Revelation.

The inference the writer makes is that NLP is sinister and Kip is aware of it and using it. NLP is not sinister - it just allows the analysis of what sinister people say or do. Whether Kip is NLP trained, I don't know. His analysis is correct, though. But remember, we do all use this stuff unconsciously (and sometimes on purpose) ourselves, too, you know. Just think of a time you have argued to get your own way. Everything we all say is "choked full of NLP" if we want to scrutinise.

For what its worth, Kip is naturally very persuasive. I am not surprised he said what he said. I personally wonder if he is not a little....deluded...loony. As if God only works through him. Remember all the "I am a prophet of God" stuff? Didn't Joseph Smith say similar stuff? Wasn't the Morman church founded on this stuff?"

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